Woocommerce vs Blog for Amazon Affiliate Niche Site (With Alex Cooper of WP Eagle)

should you use WooCommerce or just have a regular WordPress blog that's what Alex and I debate today now alex is my friend over at WP eagle and he knows how to use WooCommerce and that's how he sets up sites in fact he has several tutorials on the topic and I take a different approach i partly know what Woo's owned is or WooCommerce or whatever it is actually I'm pretty ignorant about the whole thing so anyway we debate the pros and cons and let's go to the conversation right now hey what's up Huntington here I'm with my friend Alex from WP eagle how are you today I'm good things me too because we're gonna have a little debate today now we have a different approach for our affiliate sites and euro woo is a Woo's own is that what we call that yeah it's kind of woozy and WooCommerce okay ecommerce style for the Alliance yeah cool and I'm more of a like a blog content SEO side in honestly there's probably more overlap than I realize but pardon my ignorance so we're just gonna debate it out and sort of hear the pros and cons now Alex if people aren't familiar with the Amazon affiliate model can you just walk us through like the basics yeah okay so the way it works when you're using a plug-in like Woo's own or WooCommerce you're using the Amazon API to basically download products onto your site in an e-commerce style so people can come to your site they can view the Amazon product you can of course rewrite the title and the description and all that kind of thing and then people can add those products to a car on your site and then when they go to checkout they get redirected across to Amazon and all those products are automatically added to their car I'll see you then if they make that purchase you get your commission which is obviously difference in the way you do it if you want to explain which i think is just around you know static links right in it's basically you know a blog style so there's just content usually targeted around a specific keyword and then a bunch of content around it typically it's some sort of a review so it helps the visitor the searcher finds more information about the product and then hopefully make like an educated decision based on the info on your site they click a link on your site over to Amazon and then hopefully they make the purchase so I see it it matches up at some point it's just the information which is provided so yeah it's the pros and cons and why you might do different so I'll go through the what I think are the pros and cons with the wound own style sites and then you can maybe go and then we can we can talk about what the differences are so I'll go through the pros of the Wu Tang site so the first thing is you can have a blog on these sites they are still a wordpress site so there still is a wordpress blog and i would definitely recommend that you do build a blog because that's the only way that you're going to reattach some good inward link so the interesting thing about the Wuzhou sites are they don't tend to need quite as much content in order to get them ranked because you're able to import lots of product very quickly so you can very quickly populate your site with two three four hundred products providing you do some basic SEO so you know you submit a sitemap to Google Webmaster console that kind of thing and make sure that your site gets found maybe add a couple of links here are there from some social media those products tend to get indexed and they can rank for some long tail searches so if someone searching for say blog got a site on on ladies boots maybe boutique or someone searching for you know a brown boot size four in lever interesting media and those product can can get some traffic and so what you find is that for free for maybe even a thousand products you can get you know two or three visits on each of those and that can add up so I recently built a site with wasone and I literally just built it imported some product maybe I did one or two articles and just left it and just started earning some income pretty much straightaway I mean it's not huge amounts of income it's I think the best on my sites do is you know two three hundred dollars a month but these are very quick to put get up and you know then you can just you know if you had a handful of these sites then the income could add up the downside to running a Wuzhou site is they are quite resource intensive so you do need some fairly decent hosting especially if you're going to add lots of products if you don't have some content on your site in terms of blog sometimes amazon aren't always 100% with them and you may get rejected as an affiliate and which case then you just need to add some content and try again there's a couple of downsides that i can be off the top of my head but obviously the plus side is that you don't need you know tons and tons of content that you get from writers or you write yourself in order to get some traffic in ávila before I explain the blog or content heavy angle I want to talk about some of the things you mentioned and that all makes sense by the way that all makes sense it's inaccurate in aggregate you can make some money few hundred bucks which is actually really good considering you're not mean to do a ton of content and a lot of the other work normally associated with such a site now yeah and again I mentioned earlier I'm ignorant in a lot of ways I'm well informed in some areas but just ignorant others just a lot of times people would ask me questions like you know what can I do if I have you know eight hundred items on my site like how do I do content and they were asking questions like that and that's where I thought that doesn't make sense to have so many products on your site you really have no practical way to add content or sort of like make it more full so those are the kind of questions I got which made me think people have too much power at their hands with the the whoo zone WooCommerce I guess style where you could pull in all these products and not have to do any background work cuz your videos are so good people can literally set up a wordpress site set up this sort of store and then they don't know what to do after that because what they've just they again they have too much power at their hands and they're not sure what to do afterwards yes that's right how well people do get carried away to be found they add lots of products maybe more than they should you know if you're in a niche then you should be quite specific about the products that you choose right I find the best sites and when we got to 300 products not thousands and thousands because what you don't to be is just a copy of Amazon right write it again like you really have no practical way to like make any like blog content on that many products that's right it's just too much so going away from there it sounds like you generally agree and I think from the blog angle it's mainly driven in the same way through SEO traffic however it's a bit more targeted so instead of publishing you know hundreds of products and hundreds of pieces of content technically on the site we're looking at you know starting a site with like ten pieces of content or so and then you know strategically picking those keywords using like the keyword golden ratio and you know keyword research tools to make sure we're you know trying to find and publish content that people are actually searching for and that are actually buyers keywords so it would be like best ballpoint pen for journaling something like that yeah now the downside is you know typically for those ten pieces of content early on that you launch a site with I want at least a thousand words for each one of those that's you know nothing to sneeze at you know we're talking ten thousand words that you either have to write yourself you have to hire someone and if you write it yourself it's probably the most amount of content you've ever written in your whole life unless you're a writer a professional writer of some kind or if you hire someone I mean you're at least talking you know maybe hundred to two hundred dollars of you know writing services to have that content now the upside is from a serving the internet and making people like I guess helping the visitors write helping the visitors and making the internet a better place by putting more content on there and helping them make a decision one could argue that that's a good thing versus just having like the straight-up product description with not much other details yeah she said this recently about you know question I often get is why would you have it why would people visit an affiliate marketing site why wouldn't people just go straight to Amazon and buy the product I mean what is the point of having an Amazon affiliate or an affiliate site in general from artists that is ways that you are there to add value you're there to help someone buy there's someone there maybe in a need for you know the best bullpen for journaling but you know they're not gonna find that information on Amazon you can't just search Amazon for that because members and don't have the content around it so you're there to help someone they've got a rough idea what they're looking for what they need and you're there to really just help them and say that this is what you need and here's what you can get it and that's how you earn your commission so yeah you are any more value with the content side definitely and with the woods own site it's so less effort but less value as well right and I think you know in some of my other videos I think I if people quoted me I would say something like I don't know why alex is telling people to you know build Wu's own sites and WooCommerce and stuff so I I retract those because what you said makes perfect sense to me I think there's a blend right I think we could agree that somewhere in the middle right like you can utilize all the WooCommerce capabilities in a you know smarter way a more strategic way and then add content on top of it using some of the ideas where you know I mentioned key word golden ratio like that could be a great way to marry the to uh like do you have anything to add without Alex oh yeah definitely yeah but blend of the two is probably a great site you know if you've got some really good content and what you can do is you can link to products on your site rather than just people straight off to amazon which in a way in theory could increase their basket size because people could add you know three or four products from your site to a basket and then when they go to amazon those three or four products added straightaway to their amazon basket the other thing that we don't guys that i'm not sure your sites do is it it puts a 90 day cookie do your site do that too so people don't have to buy on the same day they can you know if they buy 90 days down the line used in be a commission okay because it's adding directly to the car yeah that's right yeah I think those products are in the car I think yeah I think you're right so and that is a huge deal because in my model the cookie is only a 24 hour cookie so that's you know part of the reason why I'm going after buyers keywords which you know people are probably going to buy something in the next day or two they're researching things that are in this show that intent now I guess it only works for that specific product that you're talking about because it's a 90 day cookie so they have to buy that one product and that's like okay cool very good all right well anything else did you could think about no I think I think when it comes to fruit marketing there is no right or wrong I mean a lot of people I think the big question is you know how can I make money online you know should I be doing that as an affiliate should I be doing affiliate marketing should I do YouTube should I do you know drop shipping should I do Amazon FBA and which one works and I think the answer is you know they all work they all work but you've got to pick one and you've got to learn about it and you've got to put some effort in and do the work and then any of those that will work for you they're all they're all legitimate ways to make money online that a lot of people had success with all of them but you've just got to pick one that's going to work for you and just you know keep working at it and give it some time give it some effort and it will work cool now I just I thought one more question so what would be like the minimum hosting that you would recommend if someone were to you know implement a site like your like you described would say you know a modest amount say 200 to 400 products that they were gonna pull in okay now I've got a couple of sites that have got a few hundred products and they're just on the Hostgator hatchling plan which is one of the cheapest hosting packages you can get but then some other sites where I've got a few more products I have out to go up to some some more professional hosting so I you use WP engine to those and the price don't say I think you know the hatchling plan on Hostgator is and there maybe five bucks a month and wpengine is 25 bucks or so you know it's five times more you check out my channel I've got loads of stuff on you know optimizing the speed of your WordPress site and all that kind of stuff so you can you can squeeze quite a lot out of basic hosting but you know the more products you add the more stress it does put on it but as I said earlier sometimes you don't need all those products sometimes you need to think I'm in a very specific Nisha then I need to pick some very specific products and if you do that then I'd imagine you'd only have a few hundred cool and I'll add one thing I've gone through some I'm not as savvy as you but I've gone through some hosting issues even just yesterday so I think you know once you hit a certain threshold of visitors like regardless of what you have going on WordPress you may have to upgrade so the thing that I've found unfortunately each time I've hit the capacity is everything's fine until it's not like you get one or two more users a day and then WordPress kind of falls apart like yeah doesn't load and all of a sudden it's just like for a couple days like your CPU spikes and things like very bad things happen and then I just upgraded my cloud hosting to a few more process there's a little more memory and everything was fine like within 20-30 minutes so and a good house should be able to switch you up the package is fairly quickly so there's no there's nothing wrong with starting with a small package and as you build your side up but then you just you just upgrade or move or whatever it's all that easy cool cool all right thanks Alex and I think we settled the debate a blend of the two is good so I'm sorry if I said bad stuff about you in the past it was it wasn't personal you know all right appreciate it and we'll link up definitely check out Alex's channel if you haven't seen him before and we'll catch you next time Thanks okay by the way if you don't know Alex please check out his channel we'll put some links below and make it easy for you to get to it he's a wordpress guy he knows a lot about the details inner workings of WordPress so be sure if you're interested in learning more that you do check it out thanks for watching I'm Doug Pennington have a look at the channel if you like the videos please subscribe thanks you

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